Dublin’s Lord Mayor: Cars needed to carry “26 inch plasma TVs”

— Mayor said people on bicycles shouldn’t hit cars that get too close to them.

— Claims there’s not enough space for segregated cycle lanes.

— “We used to all have a couple of pints and drive home,” said Cllr Ring.

Cars are needed in Dublin City centre so that shoppers can carry “26 inch plasma TVs” home with them, Lord Mayor, Nial Ring, has claimed.

Almost all city centre retailers offer home delivery for larger items and most won’t fit in cars, but the mayor said cars are vital for the city centre economy to carry bulk items.

In an interview with Newstalk Lunchtime he apologised for parking in a cycle lane on O’Connell Street to launch a tourist bus and said it adds to the argument for segregation or at least clearer cycle lanes, but later in the interview questioned if there was space for segregated cycle lanes.

In the interview on Newstalk he also said: “I’m normally in a car and sometimes if you’re too close, they’ll [people cycling] hit the car, that’s not on, and they go through red lights and that’s not on.”

Cllr Ring said motorists are protected in cars but that the issue is an “educational thing for both motorists and cyclists”.

He added: “I’d love to see cyclist stop wearing ear plugs, because if you beep at them they think you’re being aggressive but you might be trying to warn them”.

Cllr Ring said that it’s a relationship building exercise and said things are improving. He used the example of a school traffic warden who said he was able to engage with people on bicycles to behave better and communication between motorists and those on bicycles at junctions improves interaction.

But when presenter Ciara Kelly said that it was not an equal relationship and that motorists were not killed by cyclists, Cllr Ring said: “Looking at the FF idea of segregated cycle lanes, that’s a brilliant idea, however we have to remember Dublin has very narrow streets so you have to accommodate everything.”

When Kelly challenged him again on giving space over to cycling and that “motorists are punching way above their weight in terms of taking up road space”, he said the city centre economy needed car access.

Cllr Ring said: “They are also punching way above their weight in what they add to the economy because, as you know somebody in a car will spend five times the amount in city centre shops as a person on a bike” — this is contradicted by two surveys on retail habits in Dublin City centre, one for the National Transport Authority and a second independent research from the Dublin Institute of Technology.

The surveys show that spend per person is more equal and where more people cycle that is more so the case, and shoppers using sustainable modes far outweigh those in cars in total spend:

Cllr Ring said: You can’t come in a throw your 26 inch plasma TV into your front little basket on your bike, you need cars coming into the city.”

He said that “motorists have done their bit” because some of them have switched to sustainable transport and that “motorists are paying road tax, NCT, insurance etc and even if you look at the fines situation [for cyclists]”.

He said the fines for cyclists amounted to just two per day and that you could catch more at junctions. He agreed motorists shouldn’t text while driving and that “we’ve all been guilty of it”.

Cllr Ring said: “We used to all have a couple of pints and drive home, we don’t do it now.”

Cllr Ring has previously objected to three cycle routes and in one case said that the mental health of drivers should be accounted for. He also looked for motoring to be added to the City Development Plan as a form of sustainable transport.

7 Comments

  1. “motorists have done their bit because some of them have switched to sustainable transport….”

    By sustainable transport, does he mean, er, bicycles perhaps?

    So people on bikes are actually motorists doing their bit. I thought he was all about helping hard-pressed motorists? So how about helping those hard-pressed motorists on bikes (which includes me) and provide them with safe segregated cycle infrastructure.

  2. Oh my, where to begin….
    “road tax”
    He’s all about the “red lights” and cyclists, no mention of the cars/buses/taxis/trucks running red lights.
    > motorists shouldn’t text while driving and that “we’ve all been guilty of it”. Sure it’s only a wee text
    Someone should put it to him to cycle around the city and see how he gets on, ideally film it and broadcast his running commentary. That would be interesting for sure

  3. Where to begin is right. Not sure if there’s any merit in responding to the ignorance displayed by this guy.

  4. “Mr Ring is an accountant, banker and former business partner of Dublin property developer and Fianna Fáil Ard Comhairle member, Jerry Beades…. and long-time political associate of the former taoiseach Bertie Ahern”

    Since he’s really FF, he should check in with his political mates and see that the wind has changed – https://www.fiannafail.ie/cycle-policy-2018/

  5. Can you even buy plasma TVs any more? And 26 inches? That’s tiny!

  6. I’d be cool with it if people only drove through the city centre to collect their “26 inch plasma TVs”. Him and Mannix “screaming their heads off to Nirvana or something” Flynn make a fine pair.

    If cyclists are routinely hitting your car then you are almost certainly driving like a prick. Sorry to break it to you. Hey, sometimes motorists drive their cars right at cyclists, perhaps we should bring that up every time we’re having this discussion.

    Based on his attitude I have to question what Ring means when his “beeps” his horn as a warning. Is this one of those, “you’re in my way and if you don’t get out of it I’m going to run you down” kind of warnings? This would explain why people apparently keep hitting his car. Having some dangerous scumbag blasting their horn and crowding me when I’m doing nothing wrong makes me quite angry too.

    I’m a little confused about this too. I thought the headphones completely blocked all sound meaning those scofflaw (it’s not a law) cyclists can’t hear anything (those headphones must be great, I often can’t hear anything through mine over the traffic noise). Now they just allow people to misinterpet the subtle differences between a warning beep and an aggressive beep. Is Ring aware that it’s an offence to be doing all this beeping without a good reason?

    I’d like to see the figures Ring is basing this “five times” spending on and until I hear something to the contrary I’m going to have to go ahead and assume it’s a fantasy that he completely made up.

    The talk about segregation seems a bit convuluted and contradictory but, once again, based on his history allow me to explain what I think he means. People cycling get in the way of people driving their cars of parking their cars (who are heroes that keep the city running and pay for everything). This is unacceptable and cyclists should be in segregated cycle lanes. Dublin doesn’t have any space for segregated cycle lanes, and if there was any space motorists should get it. Therefore cyclists should feck off and just stay home until they can afford a car like a real person.

    Next year: “Pedestrians! They get in your way. They hit your car when you drive at them even a little. Who hasn’t driven down a footpath the odd time, and they can’t hear your warning them to jump in a doorway because of their headphones. You can’t fit a Betamax in your back pocket! They actually steal more than they buy, drivers outspend them infinity to one. You know that.”

  7. FFS, when can we vote for a Mayor and get someone decent. Majority of Dubs probably don’t even know who is mayor at present.

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